Why do people get so angry at flat earthers?

Why do people get angry at people that believe the world is flat?

I don’t think I get angry, just amused at their ignorance.

They remind me of camels.

Camels like to eat thorny bushes. While munching on them the thorns cut their tongue and they bleed. They taste this blood and think it’s juice from the thorny bush.

Meanwhile, they have a priceless expression on their faces, like they know everything and are very wise, although they are completely stupid.

So be it with flat earth people!

Who are they and where do they come from? 


Who are they? Where do they come from? First, let’s talk common sense, then I’ll tell you why, in my family, people believe in UFOs.

They’re not coming from space.

I’ve written many articles on how the vastness of space is not traversable because a light year is a lot further than people really think. My conclusion as a layman with some background in science, and after following the writings of many astrophysicists and astronomers and pragmatists, is that UFO’s, whatever they be, are not from other planets.

We are not being visited by aliens simply for the same reason we are not visiting them. Neither knows the other exists and traveling the vastness of space would take many lifetimes. Why do I say that?

Our closest star, Alpha Centauri, is about 4.4 light years away. That number “4.4” misleads us to think that’s not very far, but it’s further away than you can imagine, and that’s just the closest star. This is a distance of about 5.88 trillion miles away, and there’s another number we can deal with: 5.88 (trillion miles).

Let’s see how long it would take to travel that distance and go the fastest we can.

We’ll start with the correct assumption no one can go faster than light. This is not some “law” of physics that can one day be “broken.” It’s just the way things are. Period. For us, for aliens.

So far the fastest we’ve ever gone was on July 4, 2016, when the Juno spacecraft, assisted by Jupiter’s gravity got up to approximately 165,000 miles per hour (265,000 km/h), breaking all previous space speed records. Previous to that the record was 157,000 mph set by the 2 Helios spacecrafts as they sped near the sun in the mid 1970s. These are the fastest speeds we can achieve, and they are done with gravity assists.

But that’s not fast enough to get to Alpha Centauri. Let’s somehow figure a way (the science is not there at present) where we could go not 10, not 20 but 81 times faster than the fastest speed we’ve ever before achieved. (That’s like going from 60 mph in your car to 4,861 mph – kinda fast.)

This would put us at around 13.3 million mph. This speed is phenomenal and quite honestly, not achievable even using gravity assist. It also happens to be 2% the speed of light. This speed is not realistic, but this is just for theoretical thought. The closer we get to the speed of light the more energy you need to the point of requiring infinite energy at the speed of light. Let it be known that going 81 times faster than the Juno spacecraft did is an unachievable speed.

Now we’re zipping toward Alpha Centauri at 13.3 million mp/h, 81 times faster than any craft built by humans have ever gone before. We’ve incredibly somehow achieved 2% the speed of light.

Bear in mind there are two problems we haven’t and will not address, but equally worth considering, is the time and energy need to both achieve this speed and then slow down from that speed at the other end of the journey. Deceleration takes as much energy as acceleration.

Never mind that for now. Let’s just say we can zip up to that speed and zip down to zero in nothing flat. Even at this incredible speed of 13.3 million miles per hour it’s going to take us 2,200 years each way to get to Alpha Centauri.

Now there’s a place more likely to have at least Earth size planets than Alpha Centauri. That would be the Trappist-1 system at 40 light years distant. That’s going to take 20,000 years each way. And this is just our neighbor.

Therefore, speaking realistically, practically, interstellar space travel is science fiction. The distances are too far both for us, and for any intelligent beings that might be out there 1 million or 8 billion light years away.

UFO people are kooks, nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, fanatics and prone to bad science and even fraudulent claims. In these days of digital imagery where we can realistically depict people flying all over space on the big screen, I’ve never seen an image of a UFO that I couldn’t do a better job creating on my Linux computer using GIMP.

That’s the party line. The science of space distances is outlined above. Nobody is visiting us from outer space.

So then who are they and where do they come from? 

I have a problem in my personal life. My mother-in-law, her son, my brother-in-law, and my father-in-law, all claim they saw one up close and personal. The story is famous in my family. My wife says, “Okay, so with all this science stuff you talk about, how do you explain what they saw? You know my mother. She’s not the kind of person to make up stories.”

So what do I do with that?

Here’s the story as told to me by two of the eye witnesses. I know, it’s anecdotal, but how does it figure in with my worldview?

Once, while on an early morning fishing expedition in the 1950s in a remote area of Missouri, USA, my mother-in-law, her husband and son, were headed through the darkness to a lake where they hoped to catch some fish.

When they came out into a clearing at the lake’s edge, there in the moonlight, hovering 3 feet above the water, was a metallic saucer shaped craft with lights going all around it.

The lake was only a few hundred feet across, and this hovering thing with the lights wasn’t making a sound. The water was not disturbed, but it was clearly levitating. The three of them began to walk all around the shoreline looking at it from all sides, when suddenly, after about 15 minutes, it began to rise up, slowly at first, and then zip blindingly fast into the sky and was gone.

That’s the story. Now these people aren’t making this stuff up. They never told anyone except family members – people like me. The story can’t be found in an UFO conspiracy books. They were not kooks.

And then what about that front page New York Times report about a secret Pentagon program and some “artifacts” being stored in modified buildings in Las Vegas? Hmm?

I don’t know. You just have to be like me. Scratch my head.

Maybe there is stuff going on that science doesn’t quite get, yet, like God and religion and UFOs.

Why don’t flat Earth believers fly to the underside of the Earth, and take pictures to prove their belief?

I’m going to answer this and go beyond and explain a lot more.

Flat earth believers don’t fly to the underside of the earth and take pictures because, they say, there’s a dome over the whole thing, which is why we have a “wall of ice” to prevent us from getting out and walking over to touch it. It’s a convenient idea to avoid various dilemmas like the one you pose: flying over the edge to look at the other side. Here’s an image that illustrates their belief, showing the Earth, the dome, and the movement of the sun.

Please note, in this image below, the shape of Australia.

Notice, in this image, the sun is over Australia. This is a picture of what flat earth people think Australia looks like:

Let’s compare this image to actual distances. Below you can see Australia is actually 2,511 miles wide. You can drive it. There are roads.

Now in the image below you can see that Australia is almost as tall as it is wide using actual measurable distances.

So flat earth people believe Australia is much wider than tall, which is the only way they can depict Australia on their flat earth map. Below is what Australia actually looks like:

One of a billion problems with flat earth maps is they cannot account for the distortions that they see. This can only be rectified by using the spheroidal earth model.

So there you have it. The real reason they can’t fly underneath to see the flat Earth is that the Earth isn’t flat!

With over 20,000 satellites in the Earth’s orbit, why is there no real satellite imagery of the North and South Pole, or even the earth at all?

Is there any satellite imagery of Earth’s poles or even Earth at all? Of course there is imagery of the poles and the earth as a whole. You must know that. No, the earth is not flat.

But it matters not because no matter what I tell you or show you, you will still go on believing the world is flat and NASA is involved in a giant conspiracy. I don’t even know why you ask these questions. You don’t want to hear why your narrow minded ideas are not accepted by anyone except a small group of kooks.

Let’s say I don’t believe the world is round. How can one prove the world is round to me?

Noel Davidson

One thing that never ceases to amaze me about the Flat Earth Society is their rigidity.

You could bring up several problems with the Flat Earth Theory, but as if by magic, they have an explanation at the ready. Big thanks to their website for having all these incredible discoveries all in once covinient place.

The numerous scientists that have been into space. That has to disprove it, right?

Nope. Both the US and USSR were driven mad with winning the Space Race to the point that they faked certain achievements. Now concealing the existence of the Earth’s true nature is only in the interest of money. How? They’re “using only some of their funding to continue fake space travel”. That leaves big bucks for Elon to pretend to build a hyperloop. Come on, you didn’t really believe that was going to be a thing too, did you?

Well there’s no way the Earth can be flat if the sun and moon rises and sets everyday!

Come on, everyone knows it’s all a matter of perspective. The sun acts as something of a spotlight, affecting only a portion of the Earth at a time.

Alright, well the people who literally sailed around the world has to mean something, right? Please?

Too easy. Obviously, the huge ice wall around the edge of the Earth (AKA Antarctica) that holds the oceans in has allowed explorers to sail in one big circle around the North Pole. The great ice wall, and This is an actual quote from the website, protects us from “whatever lies beyond”. I really couldn’t make this stuff up if I tried.

Okay, the Earth can’t be flat, because if it was, gravity would’ve consolidated it into a sphere. Incorrigible.

The response to this is so stupid, so mind-numbingly painful, based on seemingly nothing, but yet it exists. What they teach you about gravity in school? Yeah, it turns out it’s actually way weaker than you’d think. But if that’s not enough, the Earth is constantly being pushed up and at a rate of 32 feet per second squared, so you don’t float away in your sleep. We have the universal accelerator to thank for that. You know, the aetheric wind? Dark energy?

So you see, there’s no conceivable argument I could make to convince you, a Flat Earther, that the Earth is round. We can all but wait until they all get on a space shuttle to observe the obviously round earth, and entertain ourselves with their explanation then. Until that time comes around, just keep using the words perspective and image manipulation until the sheeple go away.

Marvel at the sheer idiocy for yourself here: Frequently Asked Question

Is America hiding aliens in Area 51? Why are they keeping it a secret?

First of all you ask “Is America hiding aliens in Area 51?” No matter how I answer that question, let’s say I say “no” then you ask “Why are they keeping it a secret?” Well, if I said no to the first question the second question is absurd.

Before even asking the first question, however, I’d have to ask who do you mean by “America?” Does that mean Donald Trump? Former president Obama? Congress? Who exactly do you mean when you say “America” who is keeping this all secret from us? Does that mean you? Are you America? Who is America?

Finally, I’d like to point out that stars and planets are dozens, hundreds, thousands and even millions and billions of light years away. No one can travel that distance, aliens be damned.