When will SpaceX colonize Mars?

“Mr. Doe, when was the last time you beat your wife?” No matter what he answers, he’s admitting guilt. That’s a leading question.

I know my answers to these kind of questions aren’t popular, but they are the truth. Many do not want to hear the truth. We are absolutely convinced mankind is going to colonize Mars and beyond.
Your question, for example, is what is called a “leading question.” No matter how it’s answered, “Five years, ten years, 50 years,” it means Mars is getting colonized sooner or later. It’s like asking a man on the witness stand, “Mr. Doe, when was the last time you beat your wife?” No matter what he answers, he’s admitting guilt. That’s a leading question.
The truth is Mars will not be colonized by anyone. Ever. So if you don’t like to hear that, don’t read any further. For the rest of you, I’ll briefly explain why I say so below.
I’ll admit there’s an improbably small possibility someone may go to walk on Mars for no other reason than to say we went to Mars. Whether that happens or not will have to be seen. However, if it does happen, getting that person or persons to Mars will be extremely dangerous, keeping them alive on Mars equally difficult, and getting them back almost impossible. They will likely die up there, and they know it.
People are actually signing up for one way trips because they know they won’t be coming back.
Sending robots, rovers and orbiters to Mars is much less expensive and much safer than sending people, and there is nothing a person could do up there that a machine could not. For that reason there is no scientific value to risking human lives to walk on Mars, let alone “colonize it.”
The Mars atmosphere is too thin to breathe, it’s poisonous, there is no liquid water, there is no organized magnetic field to protect humans from harmful UV rays from the sun like we have on Earth, there would be constant exposure to radiation. They would need a constant supply of breathable air, soil and water.
We could not restock it like we restock the ISS. Whatever they have on Mars will have to come from Mars.
For these reasons and others I say no one is going to colonize Mars at all.
Just like the bottom of the ocean. Why don’t we go colonize there? It’s closer, just as dangerous, and more room than on Mars. We don’t because we’re stuck on this idea that we’re going to make our mark in space. We are going to survive as a species because our species is going to colonize other planets.
Unlikely.

Would it be possible to put a person on the moon for a prolonged period of time?

We are too heavily influenced by science fiction writers, movies and XBox to see it for what it is.

Space. The final frontier.
One day in our futures humans will travel to other planets, terraform them and colonize them. We will spread out and our species will survive, even if our own sun blows up. We have to start somewhere. We’ve been to the moon once. Let’s go again. Let’s live on the moon.
That would be very difficult. We would need a way to supply our moon resident with food, water and food. Perhaps it could be as we do now with the International Space station (ISS), i.e. fly up supplies once in awhile.
The problem is that the ISS is in low Earth orbit at 249 miles above mean sea level. The moon, on the other hand is between 225,623 miles at it’s closest, and 248,855 miles at it’s farthest, and is moving away from Earth at a rate of 1.5 inches per year. The moon is more than 906 times further than the ISS.
Taken distances into consideration, I would say it is not practical to have a living human being on the Moon for an extended period of time unless he could somehow grow his own food, and get oxygen and water locally.
We are too heavily influenced by science fiction writers, movies and XBox to see it for what it is. Hopeless.
The answer to your question, sadly, is no.
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Can we ever travel to another solar system and live there?

The Internet is full of people these days hoping we’ll go planet hopping to other solar systems one day. After all, our own sun will eventually die and all life on Earth will die. That is inevitable. Can we save ourselves by moving to another solar system?
Here Matthew Cliffard, an expert in the field, addresses this question.


By Matthew Clifford
Former student Aperture Science
It wouldn’t even be remotely possible ten generations later – as sad as that sounded.
The star system that resembles the structure of our own Solar System the most and harbouring planets that might be able to host life, at the moment, is TRAPPIST-1. And we’re not even sure whether these planets have what it takes for us to live on them comfortably or with a reasonable amount of time investment i.e. Terraforming.
Other than TRAPPIST-1, which is approximately 40 light years from Earth, we’ve never found any star system that’s remotely close to this organisation like what we found here, and that’s why people kicked up a tornado of fuss when the Transiting Planets and Planetesimals Small Telescope (TRAPPIST) in Chile stumbled upon it in 2015 – and later on in 2017 with the works of NASA and their arrays of powerful telescopes, we found four additional planets to the system other than the three initially found.
Now as I said – that’s the most potential place for us to find a new home at, and it’s 40 light years away.
That’s 378,400,000,000,000,000 kilometers.
The fastest man-made space craft in human history for the moment is the Juno spacecraft when it slingshot around Jupiter, accelerating to a speed of almost 40.3 km/s (25 mi/s).
But how long would it take for Juno to reach TRAPPIST-1 if it was sent toward the system?
Not much, just… 298 millions years.
Earth was still inhabited by dinosaurs 298 millions years ago, and it wasn’t until 46 millions years later that the Permian-Triassic Extinction Event (THE GREAT DYING!) occurred.Dino
So maybe ten generations is infinitesimally low number, probably thousands of generations later would we see the day.

When humans colonize Mars, is it possible for a new race of humans to develop because of climate?

This is the question. What’s going to happen when we have lots of people on Mars.

Why don’t we ask If humans ever colonize Mars…

There is a formidable place we could colonize right now which is uninhabited, cheaper and closer to reach: the bottom of the ocean. Why don’t we colonate that? Because there is no value and it would be useless to do so.

Although it is a popular belief that we might some day, somehow, colonize Mars, a God forbidden place, it is highly unlikely.

Humans may walk on it, for reasons that escape me, but I do not believe we will colonize it. Mars has no value for colonization. North America did – it was rich with foliage, water, beautiful landmarks, gold. People wanted to go there. At the time the ocean was as formidable a challenge to cross as space is to us.

Mars, on the other hand, has a poisonous atmosphere and you can’t put an atmosphere in place for a multitude of reasons: 1) gravity is too weak to hold an atmosphere and 2) there is no organized magnetic field to keep the sun from blowing away the atmosphere. That’s why Mars has almost no atmosphere, and what’s there would kill you because it’s poisonous to humans.

Mars is a long, long way away and a moving target. If you manage to get astronauts on it when it’s nearest the Earth, then it moves away and you can’t get the astronauts back for a long time. It’s not like going to the moon for a few days and coming back. It’s a one way trip.

That one way trip is a death trap. There is no shelter from UV light from the sun because there is essentially very little atmosphere. It gets to hundreds of degrees below zero at night. There is no suitable soil to grow anything, and anything you grow would have to be indoors.

If you could have people living there, it would be five or six people, and they would likely die, because both going and coming is frought with danger. NASA does not want any seeds or bacteria to go to Mars. They want it to stay in pristine condition so we can study it to see if at one time life might have evolved there before it died out due to the conditions on that planet. So those people would have to live in some kind of dome. It is not a place we are going to go live on. That, sadly, is science fiction’s hold on you.

Sending rovers and space probes is cheaper, more practical and much safer then sending people. My guess, that’s the way it’s going down. So it’s not a question of when …. it’s a question of why do people think we’re going to populate another planet when we can’t even keep this one from over population and human polution.

In the meantime, if you want to populate the bottom of the ocean, be my guest. People visit there, we send rovers there, but nobody colonates it.

Can we bioengineer insects to change the atmosphere on Mars?

I believe the rate of their reproduction in a habitat without known predators will allow them to multiply extremely fast and thus change the atmosphere quickly.

Let me fill you in on a little secret. A lot of people don’t know about this secret, but you are about to learn it.
NASA doesn’t want us to bring anything to Mars. No seeds, no germs, no nothing.
Unfortunately, we already have brought microbes with us and now there’s danger of cross contamination. We do not want to contaminate Mars. We want to keep it pristine so we can study it.
No one is going to bring insects there on purpose.

What's the real reason we haven't sent someone to Mars yet?

A question people ask.

We really want to send somebody to Mars. Why?

The answer to the question is that it’s a long way away, it moves all the time (sometimes it’s a very long way away on the other side of the sun), it’s expensive, it’s very dangerous, it’s a dead planet, there’s nothing humans can do there that our less expensive rovers can’t do, we can’t breathe the air, we can’t grow anything there, there’s no legitimate scientific reason to go and last but not least nobody would fund it, especially Congress.

Do you think people can really live on Mars?

No, of course not. Hollywood wants us to think so, but sadly, or gladly, this is not and never will be possible.
Mars is a poisonous planet with no liquid water. It is hundreds of degrees below zero at night. You cannot breath the air. You cannot grow food. You cannot make goods there. Everything would have to be imported from Earth at great expense just so a few nuts can go and live.
It’s not happening.

Is there no reason to colonize the moon?

No, there is no reason.

It was suggested we might build a base there to send people off to Mars.

Alas. No one’s going to colonize either place. The moon is a vaccum and Mars is poisonous and dead.

Aside from Hollywood, there is no reason to colonize either place. We can and will send robots to do our work of exploration there. Human footprints there are useless except for photo ops.

Can Going to Mars Fix Earth?

Mars is cool. Isn’t it? Well, spoiler alert: neither you nor I are going to settle on Mars.
It’s inhospitable and has no benefit. It’s not a safe haven if we screw up Earth. Why? Because Mars lost its hot core billions of years ago. Without a hot core Mars lost the magnetic field shielding it from the sun. The atmosphere blew away, the volcanos dried up, and there’s nothing protecting any people there from the dangerous rays of the sun. It has no value for humans to go there, what to speak live there, and NASA has a whole department dedicated to making sure we don’t bring germs to other planets or from other planets back to Earth. That means we’ll never terraform Mars. We will never grow stuff there, and we will never survive there. Mars is useless except, maybe, for rovers to rove.
Same goes for the moon. No point in going back to the moon. Anything you want to do there you can do without human hands. That’s what robots are for, and if a robot dies it costs money but no lives.
We were born on this Earth. We will die on it. We’ve got stuff in orbit, and robots on Mars and in space, but that’s it. Maybe SpaceX or somebody will put some poor souls on the surface of Mars, but they will either die or have to come back to the safety of Earth.
There will be no Star Trek Enterprise. There will never be a spaceship that can go “warp” speed. There will never be a Federation of Planets. Get real. Sorry if it’s upsetting. Great TV, great movies, but it’s science fiction.
We won’t be able to visit those 7 “earthlike planets” recently discovered over 40 light years away, 10 times further than our closest stellar neighbor.
We’ve got one place to live. Earth. Screw it up, and the future’s screwed. We have the science to sustain it, but greediness and politics, international conflicts and third world governments, big industry and you and me in our cozy environment choking homes, will not allow us to save it. Gradually a wide variety of species will go extinct, both plants and animals. Gradually the food chain will be disrupted. Not for you, probably not for your kids, but down the line it’s coming.
Sometimes Earth people go “green” – reducing their “environmental footprint.” Yeah, you can try. You can even succeed if you try really hard. You can live off the grid, by candlelight or self generated electricity, don’t buy any food in containers or wrapped in plastic, make compost and grow food.
I know people who live like that and it’s great for them.
However, let’s get real here. Out of billions of people, if a few people leave less of an environmental footprint than most of the others, it might make them feel good but will it really save the world? No it won’t, because at the core of the problem is humanity itself. We are the polluters of our own planet. We are not likely to stop as a whole. We are not one world government, one people and one culture. We are diverse and dream of going to other planets if this one gets screwed up.
Is this a pessimistic view? Probably. I’m going to be 64 years old in a few months. This is the world the boomers and those before us are leaving behind. See if you can fix it.

Martian Pipe dream?

There’s no way humans are going to colonize Mars. Hate to burst your bubble.
There’s no organized magneto sphere on Mars to protect people from the sun. It’s why the Martian atmosphere blew away and the oceans evaporated.
For that reason terra forming can’t be successful there, and scientifically no one wants to contaminate Mars with our germs.
We’re just going to have to fix what we’ve got. Star Trek is fiction.